Curse

Eilsys · Oct 31, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

How about a compromise???

Limit the # of NPCs on a team to 3

That means 3 humans and 3 heros/hench?

I like that.

I would imagine the reason there were only four henchmen in HA is because Anet wanted groups to be able to fill slots with 'em, but not build teams of henchies.

Henchies had six skills, and no runes and such because they weren't intended to be amazing players, just adequate substitutes. And now with heroes, you don't need real people, which is kind of sad.

An easy solution would be to prevent heroes from leaving Elona or something.

llsektorll · Oct 31, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

/SIGNED....

stupid heros are ruining PvP.... its not PvP without the "Player"... since HA has been shortened to 6 players it shoudn't be hard to form groups!

DeathandtheHealing · Oct 31, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

Dont be mad cause u suck and get your ass kicked by npcs

watrah · Oct 31, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

dont take it the wrong way but alot of good ppl dont want to join new guilds and if they do they stay only for an hour or two and they leave without saying goodbye even after u ask them for help ether u pay or they with go gay and if u try to ask them why do u leave thet say ur guild is full of noobs dak I know that that why I ask u to help and what ppl say dont use hero yah that a good one

bart · Oct 31, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

/notsigned

I'm a PVE player and before Nightfall came out I suddenly had the urge to try PVP. Well lets just say nobody wanted me and i decided to get a droks run for my lvl 5 monk and went to Ascalon Arena to learn and own. That was plenty of fun.

tomcruisejr · Oct 31, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

what's the difference between heroes and people who use a skill after 3-2-1 count and c+space?

Elena · Oct 31, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

how bout this LET ME SHOW MY FRIGGIN RANK 1 TITLE ALREADY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

then i will be happy and wont feel forced to take heroe's + hench into youre sanctuary of only real people called ha

btw

ghostly heroe is ai aswell! omg get him out of ha i want real people lawls!

Kalki · Oct 31, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

/SIGNED

Anet PLEASE fix this soon before PvPers leave the game. Hero's Ascent, TEAM Arenas, Alliance Battles should be PvP (Player vs. Player!) NOT PvPvH or PvH. At the very least limit it to 1 or 2 Heroes per team in those arenas. If I want to fight with Heroes I'll fight in Hero Battles, but to let Heroes fight elsewhere just waters down and ruins those arenas. It might be a good idea to let Heroes in GvG because I think you need at least half your team as guildmates to start a match.

All I have to say to the PvPers that are outraged by Heroes ruining the games is just wait and give it time. When something is so blatantly broken Anet is usually working on a fix for it. I just hope they fix it soon before people who prefer PvP quit.

Edit: I just wanted to add, that teams full with players and no Heroes should always be the best by design of the game. If teams with Heroes have an advantage over player teams, then there is really need for a change.

Kool Pajamas · Oct 31, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

/NOT signed

It at least makes more variety in the builds instead of the same old ranger/blood spike over and over.

There is a new metagame, adjust.

Spader · Oct 31, 2006, 05:55 AM // 05:55

/not signed

They made it past the ghostes either kill the henchway or get out.

=HT=Ingram · Oct 31, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Dude, Henchmen have always been allowed in GvG and in HA... its just not many took em cause they sucked. Now that they are quality Player controlled characters, They are actually WORTH taking. and now you PvP people can't handle that some players can effectivily play a 4 character configuration and YOU can't!!! Deal with it, and get Nightfall. Or don't and leave, see if I give a flying fig either way... Adapt or Die.

Its called Hall of Heroes. What better place for heroes is there?

gamecube187 · Oct 31, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

/notsigned

It's about time Arena Net did something like this. Now the newer players like me who are in Guilds that don't pvp much can finally do HA. No one wants me to be in their group because I don't have any rank? Well at least now I can finally get in with heros.

Arena Net, please don't remove heros for HA! Newer players deserve a change to get rank too!

looloo · Oct 31, 2006, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

Dude, Henchmen have always been allowed in GvG and in HA... its just not many took em cause they sucked. Now that they are quality Player controlled characters, They are actually WORTH taking. and now you PvP people can't handle that some players can effectivily play a 4 character configuration and YOU can't!!! Deal with it, and get Nightfall. Or don't and leave, see if I give a flying fig either way... Adapt or Die.

Its called Hall of Heroes. What better place for heroes is there?

LOL...as if u control the heroes....that they do is just stick to what u attack, and you just got lucky the AI follow everything you attack while u have no idea whats a real player organised spike is....what a way to cheat out of you so called "control" ability

looloo · Oct 31, 2006, 07:43 AM // 07:43

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Originally Posted by gamecube187

/notsigned

It's about time Arena Net did something like this. Now the newer players like me who are in Guilds that don't pvp much can finally do HA. No one wants me to be in their group because I don't have any rank? Well at least now I can finally get in with heros.

Arena Net, please don't remove heros for HA! Newer players deserve a change to get rank too!

LOL this is what lazy fellas will say

Before the release of nightfall, do you think high rank players earn rank by doing heroway or henchyway? Do you think everyone start with good rank? The answer is NO!! in fact we work hard to get our rank by forming real team and play patiently, not through some helps from improved AI overpowered heroes....=.=

STop blaming others don't let u in coz u got no rank, instead put in effort at least start forming team with unranked team and start gaining fame slowly. NOTHING IS FREE IN THIS WORLD!!
If it was you, would you let some PUGs who has no idea whats HA play is into ur team...i doubt it

ValidusMonachus · Oct 31, 2006, 07:49 AM // 07:49

/signed.

Vel Satis · Oct 31, 2006, 07:59 AM // 07:59

I don't get the rank elitism argument. I've never had a real problem getting into unranked groups. Sometimes i'd be standing around for maybe half an hour lfg but very rarely longer than that and most of the time it only took maybe 5-10 minutes to find a group (less if I bothered to go through my friends list

).

As looloo said, if you don't want to take the time getting into a group, form one yourself. You can get r3 in no time at all anyway.

Amity and Truth · Oct 31, 2006, 08:44 AM // 08:44

"If u dun changz0r it back me = quit! lol!"
Can't help but laugh at those comments.

It's the same reason why people whined about ViM, Iway, Spirit Spam, Dual Smite, AOE Smite, Healing Ball etc etc. They were beaten by it and as we all know, PVPers are superior human beings which just can't be beaten. Now just imagine the uproar in the minds of our wanna be gods and the few goddesses if something beat them.
Yep, the very reason for these whinethreads. Of course they'd never admit defeat against one of the above.

Well, as you just love to constantly fire at the PVE Crowd with sentences like "Adapt you f**king noob, lol!", here is something for you "Adapt to the change". It'll stay a while, simply because there are currently more than enough more important bugs in the game than the ranting and whining of some disgruntled, self proclaimed PVP Gods.
Maybe in a month or two the heroes will leave HA again. But by then they will have left on their own. They're a hype and every hype fades away sooner or later. In a month from now you'll hardly see hero teams anymore in HA. Unless of course you allowed them to win because you're not good enough to beat them, which encourages them to keep on going.

You want to solve the problem? Beat them.
Show them that Heroes are not good enough for PVP and those "blasted noobs" are out in a matter of days. You can also take the alternative route and whine rivers about it just like this thread here.

It's called patience for a reason. Either they will turn into a major annoyance and will sooner or later be removed from HA or they will fade away. But A-Net never removed something without properly examining it. And that will take some time.

And last but not least:
Adapt.

freekedoutfish · Oct 31, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by looloo

Hi guys, don't you guys think that HA is getting gayer? OMG...i experienced so many teams with heroes and henchy just team gank on player-team and take advantage of it, especially in scarred earth. This is just ridiculous, how can a serious pvp place like HA allow so many heroes and henchy in battle? You wanna see that in GvG? bet no...Please take consideration into this issue, as HA is just a chaos now!!!!!

/signed

Since this is a pvp thing I have no idea about it. But for the sheer fact you said "HA is getting gayer?", im going with...

/notsigned!

I may be straight, but that kind of thing annoys me. Watch what language you use.

lishi · Oct 31, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

"If u dun changz0r it back me = quit! lol!"
Can't help but laugh at those comments.

It's the same reason why people whined about ViM, Iway, Spirit Spam, Dual Smite, AOE Smite, Healing Ball etc etc. They were beaten by it and as we all know, PVPers are superior human beings which just can't be beaten. Now just imagine the uproar in the minds of our wanna be gods and the few goddesses if something beat them.
Yep, the very reason for these whinethreads. Of course they'd never admit defeat against one of the above.

Well, as you just love to constantly fire at the PVE Crowd with sentences like "Adapt you f**king noob, lol!", here is something for you "Adapt to the change". It'll stay a while, simply because there are currently more than enough more important bugs in the game than the ranting and whining of some disgruntled, self proclaimed PVP Gods.
Maybe in a month or two the heroes will leave HA again. But by then they will have left on their own. They're a hype and every hype fades away sooner or later. In a month from now you'll hardly see hero teams anymore in HA. Unless of course you allowed them to win because you're not good enough to beat them, which encourages them to keep on going.

You want to solve the problem? Beat them.
Show them that Heroes are not good enough for PVP and those "blasted noobs" are out in a matter of days. You can also take the alternative route and whine rivers about it just like this thread here.

It's called patience for a reason. Either they will turn into a major annoyance and will sooner or later be removed from HA or they will fade away. But A-Net never removed something without properly examining it. And that will take some time.

And last but not least:
Adapt.

we did.

when iway was out we take our losses , adapt and then almost won against them

same of vimway , healingball etc etc.

did those people stopped to play vimway?

no they keep playing that even if its a sucky build.

people wont stop playing heroway just becouse its weak.

The Pointless · Oct 31, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by looloo

LOL this is what lazy fellas will say

Before the release of nightfall, do you think high rank players earn rank by doing heroway or henchyway? Do you think everyone start with good rank? The answer is NO!! in fact we work hard to get our rank by forming real team and play patiently, not through some helps from improved AI overpowered heroes....=.=

STop blaming others don't let u in coz u got no rank, instead put in effort at least start forming team with unranked team and start gaining fame slowly. NOTHING IS FREE IN THIS WORLD!!
If it was you, would you let some PUGs who has no idea whats HA play is into ur team...i doubt it

Why the hell should a number determine your skill? The selling point of GW is that Victory is determined by SKILL, not hours played, and if you ask me, that's all Rank is at the moment: HOURS PLAYED.